The Yeti\’s Cyber Smithy

Jason D. Parmer JDP/ah

“If evil though knowest, then proclaim it to all as evil,
And make no friendship with foes. “

-Havamal

It appears clear that Gavin and Yvonne Frost do not want you to know what is in their book and they want destroy my rights under the First Amendment to the United. Specifically, that I have every legal right to quote The Witches Bible / The Good Witches bible in order to provide “critical commentary”. As they have now sent a lawyer after me for using my First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech, I have to figure they do not want you to know what they wrote and what my opinions on what they wrote are.

Now I ask you, was Peg Aloi right when she indicated that nobody would take me seriously? I think this is an example of how the Frosts are taking things rather seriously. Now I am going to take things even more seriously. How dare they attempt to subvert my First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech? How dare they attempt to subvert my legal and god given right to freedom of speech, freedom of expression, and the right to provide critical commentary on a book which I feel contains pedophilic instruction?

It is rather clear to me that Gavin and Yvonne Frost do not want open discussion on this matter. They want me to shut up and go away and now that it has become clear that the threats of magickal attack made by their associates, now that the physical threats have shown not to have much effect, now they seem to have decided to scare me away with a letter from a lawyer who will not even talk to me over the phone. What should I do, drive down there and sit in his office hoping for an audience?

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah –

Parmer Law Office
104 James Street
Hinton, West Virginia 25951
Phone (304) 466-1233 Fax (304) 466-1238

A.J. Drew
Pagan Nation
4719 Reed Road #102
Columbus, OH 43220

RE: Defamation and Copyright Infringement

Dear Mr. Drew:

Please be advised that I have reviewed your blog posts on ajdrew.blogs.pagannation.com titled “DeFrost – Please Read” and “Freedom of Speech?”. You should be aware that Mr. And Mrs. Frost are considering filing a civil suit against you in the United States District Court of Southern District of Ohio for potentially defamatory statements contained therein.

Commentary from A.J. Drew - He states “potentially defamatory”. I am advised this is one of the very first thing a lawyer does when he is blowing smoke. Now back in the day before the laws which punish lawyers rather harshly for troubling the courts with frivolous and / or malicious litigation. Now if he were to actually file the law suit, then I understand he could be seriously fined by the courts for doing so if it is determined that this matter is either frivolous or malicious. Ah, but as he has not stated that the material is defamatory, he hasn’t actually said anything other than factual. His clients the Frosts are considering a civil suit.]

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – Specifically, your statements of belief that Mr. And Mrs. Frost “once participated” in conduct that “amounts to the definition of rape in the State of Ohio” and that “[Mr. And Mrs. Frost] are themselves guilty of the torture, molestation, and rape of children [and the promotion thereof]” are patently false and indefensible.

Commentary from A.J. Drew – Note that he did not include the fact that I am stating my belief in quotes. I stated that I believe this and I have basis for this belief. As the definitions of rape change from state to state, I wanted to be clear that I am speaking of the State of Ohio. Gavin and Yvonne Frost are the founders of the Church and School of Wicca. They have stated in print that the content of the Witches Bible chapter 4 (not the Revised Version) were the original teachings of the Church and School of Wicca. Those teachings involve what I, as laymen, read in the law to be defined as “rape” in the state of Ohio.

Just one of several examples I could use - Note that in the state of Ohio, penetration is defined as rape. One need not penetrate someone with your genitals to be considered rape. Penetrating a child with a dildo is rape in the state of Ohio. The Frosts book states that a father should help their daughter with the dildo practices should she have any discomfort or pain. I believe virtually any child would experience discomfort and pain doing what is instructed. So I conclude that as they have a daughter, it seems as if a reasonable person would believe her father was involved in the practice of inserting the dildo into her vagina. As a layman, I find this to be rape under Ohio law.

Note that I said this was from the original version of the book. I mean that the instructions are in the original version of the book along with legal advise for how to minimize the legal consequences of having sex with minors. A later edition of the book is where the clear statement is found that this material was in fact part of the original teachings of the Church and School of Wicca. That later version included the original material after its explanation that they no longer think folk should formally do this, as there are legal issues at hand.

So then, the Frosts state firmly that they are the founders of the Church and School of Wicca, they state firmly that these were the teachings of the Church and School of Wicca, and they have a daughter who they state is Wiccan. I think a reasonable person would be inclined to believe they did exactly what they say a Wiccan should and I have no reason to believe elsewise as I have repeatedly asked for clarification, as have a host of others, and they refuse to address the issue.

In so far as my statement that the Frosts have encouraged the “torture” of children, again I am a laymen in such matters, so I consulted a child psychologist who tells me that the content of this book amounts to the torture of children. What else would one call forcing children to fast, consume alcohol, and then be raped in the name of Wicca? What else would you call being raped by ones father with dildos of multiple sizes?

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – You should entertain serious doubt as to the truth of your allegations because there is a preamble to the section of the book to which you refer. It states in part that “no formal initiation into a group that practices the great rite should be done before the candidate attains the age of eighteen”.

Commentary from A.J. Drew - Note that I mentioned this on the very website that the lawyer is citing. No such disclaimer is found in the 1972 edition of this book. Further, in both editions of this book are instructions for minimizing legal exposure when initiating and having sex with minors as well as a cell structure similar to the ones used by terrorists, such that covens do not know the identities of the members of other covens. Thus, I conclude that not only did Gavin and Yvonne Frost state that one should molest, torture, intoxicate, and rape children; they provided advice on how to do so in such a way an with such a structure that one can get away with doing so. In such a way that years later, it would be difficult to prove just as it is difficult for the government to track down terrorists due to the structure of their organizations.

It further states that the “the use of a phallus is usually dropped. This was included as part of Craft heritage in line with the age-old practice universal among preliterate societies…”

Commentary by A.J. Drew - So even in the lawyer’s letter, we see a clear statement that what I am reporting as recommendations that a child be raped by her father with a dildo is in fact in the book, both 1972 version and later versions. However, in the later version this portion is “usually dropped”. Not always, just usually. What I am having trouble figuring out is how this lawyer thinks that it is defamation of character to state that someone has promoted such while pointing out that a disclaimer has been added. As everything I have said is factual, and my reasons are provided with quotes from The Witchs Bible and its later release with disclaimer as The Good Witches Bible, I have to chuckle at this letter just a wee bit. You see, the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, that sacred document which states that the Frosts have the right to freedom of speech also assures me that I have freedom of speech. In particular, I have the Freedom of Speech to provide something the courts call “critical commentary”.

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – “You are hereby advised that if you do not take down all of the potentially defamatory statements from your blog and cease and desist from publishing these allegations in any manner, you risk liability for monetary damages, injunctive relief, costs and attorney fees in favor of Mr. And Mrs. Frost.”

Commentary from A.J. Drew – Note he has not actually threatened to sue. Why? Well, first there is the reason that if I do not do as he has demanded, that he would then be duty bound to sue. I doubt he wants to do that. In fact, I am not sure he can do that. I called the “Palmer Law Office” and spoke to the woman who answered the phone. I asked her what the “JDP/ah” behind Jason D. Parmer’s name was, she asked me what my name was and then said she was going to ask Jason. She then told me that she had no comment. Interestingly enough, a moment earlier I had asked to speak to Jason D. Parmer, I was asked my name, I gave it and I was told he was not in the office today.

I did not catch that the woman who answered the phone who had told me that Jason D. Parmer was out of the office previously had said she would ask “Jason” so I called back not a minute later. I asked her why it was that she appeared to be deceiving me. I explained that I have received a legally threatening letter from Mr. Parmer and only want to talk to him about it, but he was again out for the day. I do not think this was a minute after he was in. I informed her that I would call back and tape-record the conversation so that I could later illustrate what I think is a deceptive practice.

So why was he out of the office today, well the woman who answered the phone said clearly that he is in court today. Well now, that should be easy enough to research. I will be checking with the local courts to see if I am being lied to.

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – “In addition, your blog post “DeFrost – Please Read” publishes copyrighted material owned by Gavin and Yvonne Frost without their permission to do so. If you do not remove all quotations of the Good Witches Bible from your blog you may also be sued in United States District Court pursuant to 17 United States Code 501 et seq. For copyright infringement. Mr. And Mrs. Frost’s remedies for copyright infringement may include an injunction, statutory damages up to $150,000.00, costs and attorney fees.”

Commentary from A.J. Drew - Lets just set aside the fact that there is a provision in copyright for fair use and especially for providing critical commentary. Lets set aside that this is built into copyright law because if it were not, then one could not provide critical review of so much as a fiction novel. Let’s set all that aside and address the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America, a document so sacred it is called the Bill of Rights.

The Supreme Court of the United States of America, the body which has the sacred duty of interpreting this document, has been very clear that the First Amendment does not exist to protect just the individual, but the greater community itself. In short, although the individual has freedom of speech s/he may not use that speech to endanger the general public. Specifically, the individual has no protection under the First Amendment when it comes to unprotected speech. Advising people to break the law, something which was clearly done in The Witches Bible is not protected speech according to the highest court of my country.

The reverse of this is also true. My right to Freedom of Speech is especially in play as I am speaking against / providing critical commentary against a book which contains non-protected speech that I see as a threat to children.

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – “Thank you for your attention to these matters”.

Commentary from A.J. Drew – I have tried to give it my attention, but when ever it is identified that I am on the phone, he is not in the office. I wouldn’t want to lie about who is calling, so I am entering this here into my blog as he has said he reads it.

From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah – “cc: Name Secure, LLC”

Ah, if it was not clear enough that this man is attempting to subvert my legal right to provide critical commentary by threatening a lawsuit, here we see a different threat. Name Secure, LLC are the folk who I have registered the domain name PaganNation.com with. As he is sending this as a “cc” or “carbon copy” to Name Secure, LLC it appears he is attempting to go after the url itself.

I conclude that as a published author and citizen of the United States of America, I have provided critical commentary on a piece of pedophilic literature and its authors via the Internet. Jason D. Parmer JDP/ah replies with not only clear legal threats and demands, but with an implied threat to my domain name provider.

As the phone number he provided does not seem like a good way to get a hold of him, I checked with the West Virgina State Bar and found his public email is parmerlawoffice@gmail.com and his office is in Summers county district 10.

http://www.wvbar.org/barinfo/mdirectory/detail.php?ID=9093

The type of law I see that he practices is: “Administrative & Governmental Law Council General Practice Attorney”

http://www.lawyerfocus.com/WestVirginia/Hinton/ParmerLawOffice.html

So then Jason D. Parmer JDP/ah, I am not willing to do as you have commanded as I feel there is no reason under law to do so. I attempted to discuss this with you, but the person answering the phone seems to have lied to me about you being out of the office. I did think it was cute that she asked you about the letters behind your name and you told her “no comment”. I feel it is obvious that I have tried to discuss this with you and you are not willing to do so.

So please consider this post yet another attempt to discuss the matter with you. An attempt to discover if there is something I am doing that is actually illegal. I look forward to your response. In so far as going to court, hope you are a member of the Ohio Bar for the initial suit and if for some odd reason I loose, then I hope you are a member of the Federal Bar because it will certainly go to the Supreme Court if I should loose the first round.

In other words; “Bring it on From Jason D Parmer JDP/ah!” as I could hope for no better victory than a rather public court battle. You see, my goal is to inform people of what the Frosts have written to insure that Parents of children involved in Wicca and the Pagan community understand that there does exist a threat in my community. You and your clients have been rather clear that you do not want the contents of that book to be discussed. So even if I would loose such a battle, I would win. The world would know exactly what your clients have written. What father would not welcome such an event to take place?

“If evil though knowest, then proclaim it to all as evil,
And make no friendship with foes. “

-Havamal