C.U.U.P.S., Pagan Pride, and Circle Sanctuary member conduct my murder in effigy.
September 4, 2007 – 8:58 pmDid you know that Jill Marie Combs, the Vice President of CUUPS (an organization I once respected greatly) who is also the Regional Coordinator of the Ohio Valley Pagan Pride Project Inc despises folk who use their First Amendment rights and creates effigies of them for the purpose of conducting human sacrifices with guns and dozens upon dozens of rounds of ammunition?
That’s right, us your First Amendment rights and apparently CUUPS and PPP officials will despise you and shoot at your effigy in a symbolic human sacrifice. What the hell? Have our leaders all gone mad?
As many of you know, I have been soliciting Pagan Pride Project inc. to stand against the distribution of what I believe to be a pedophilic instructional created by Gavin and Yvonne Frost. As Pagan Pride Project Inc. has stated that adult literature of any kind may not be distributed at its events and has included this in its statements of ethics, one would think that instructional on sexually initiating children into Wicca would be included and it would not be difficult for them to make such a decision.
But instead of considering the letters they have received, it seems as if at least one local coordinator of Pagan Pride Project incorporated has taken it upon herself to create an effigy and “firing 80 rounds into” that effigy. Although she did not name me specifically, I feel as if it is rather clear to members of the pagan community exactly what she intended. After all, I received a copy of this information from someone who read the statement and thought just that, that the woman is attacking me personally for asking that people express their opinions.
This local Pagan Pride coordinator does not seem interested in living in a country with holds freedom of speech as sacred. I called for folk to write letters to Pagan Pride and let their opinions be heard, to simply write and explain how we feel, to that she replies:
Jill Medicine Heart Combs / Jill Marie Combs
Vice President of Covenant of Unitarian Universalist Pagans
Ohio Valley Regional Coordinator
vicepresident@cuups.org
“I despise Fundie Pagans who think that their First Amendment rights should infringe on how an organization should run—“
In fact, she solicited the support of members of the Pagan Spirit Gathering Email list, a function of Circle Sanctuary. (Yes, I did say Circle Sanctuary) to help her with her magickal attacks on those folk expressing themselves via email or perhaps myself specifically. She later thanked them in a following email to the Circle Sanctuary email list.
“Thank you everyone for your support in some serious magickal workings that have been occurring over an issue that is dear to my heart, Pagan Pride. I had to reach into some deep dark recesses and call upon a few dark forces to help me out– This isn’t my normal kind of magick to perform either– but dammit, you don’t muck with my pagan family!”
The blog where this was first posted was deleted. I originaly posted the google cache of this blog but have removed it to protect an innocent third party.
The blogger who wrote this claims I have said I want to burn the Frosts in effigy. I have never made such a statement. He says he thinks that the matter of Gavin and Yvonne Frost should be discussed as mature adults. I have asked people to write to Pagan Pride and express their opinions. I believe I have done exactly as this blogger has asked. I have asked folk to discuss it. This is how C.U.U.P.S, Pagan Pride, and Circle Sanctuary members respond to my request for discussion?
As it seems Pagan Pride Project local coordinators resort to using firearms, the killing of effigies, and references to jar spells (usually a reference to capturing a person’s soul) against me or other folk who simply asked for emails to be sent expressing their opinions, I am now disgusted by Pagan Pride Project Incorporated.
What has happened to my beautiful pagan community of activists and folk who welcomed discussion and social reform? Do we now respond to emails which include since concerns about our children with death threats? Do we now demand that the First Amendment is an annoyance?
This is the Vice president of C.U.U.P.S. Not a local cups, but the International Incorporation.
This is a local coordinator of the Ohio Valley Pagan Pride Project. Not some rogue event.
This is how Circle Sanctuary’s email list is being used, to attack folk for writing emails.
What the hell?
The first email reportedly reads:
from
Jill Medicine Heart
reply-to
PSG_Community@yahoogroups.com
to
covenofthefaintinggoat@yahoogroups.com
date
Aug 29, 2007 8:21 PM
subject
[PSG_Community] Please light a candle for me on Thursday NIGHT!
I cannot go into details, but I am doing some serious
magickal work to help protect our Pagan Pride
International as we are under attack. I am also
working on doing some magickal work to help protect
those who are joining in on this attack on Pagan
Pride. I wish I could go into details, but this is a
matter of urgency to protect the name of a
organization that has done good for you for over 10
years!
Please help protect me during this ritual.
Jill Medicine Heart Combs
Ohio Valley Regional Coordinator
The Second email reportedly reads:
from
Jill
reply-to
PSG_Community@yahoogroups.com
to
PSG_Community@yahoogroups.com
date
Aug 30, 2007 10:42 PM
subject
[PSG_Community] The rituals are done—
signed-by
yahoogroups.com
mailed-by
returns.groups.yahoo.com
Thank you everyone for your support in some serious magickal workings
that have been occurring over an issue that is dear to my heart, Pagan
Pride. I had to reach into some deep dark recesses and call upon a few
dark forces to help me out– This isn’t my normal kind of magick to
perform either– but dammit, you don’t muck with my pagan family!
I despise Fundie Pagans who think that their First Amendment rights
should infringe on how an organization should run–
Lets put it this way— my first ritual consisted on firing 80 rounds
into a target that I created as an effigy of sorts. If this fundie
pagan wants to play with effigy’s, I can too dammit.
The only damndable thing about this and the witches bottle I created
for Phase Three– I had to sacrifice a jarfull of pickles so I could
have a jar to work with!
I will protect the organizations that I am run with– anyone EVER
threatens them with anything the warrioress is coming out and she’s
pissed! — Be it Pagan Pride, Circle, Military Pagan Network, Robin’s
Hood Community Center, CUUPS or anything other organization I am
connected to. And, if anyone has a beef with me (unlike this fundie
pagan who won’t come right out and say anything to me publically) then
you need to take up with me and me alone.
I love you all! Thank you for the candlelightings, the angels, and
whatever else you sent for protection– you are the most wonderful
group of people I have ever come across. You are truly my extended
family.
Bless you all for your help!
Jill Medicine Heart Combs
The third email reportedly confirms I am the target of this attack
from
Jill
reply-to
PSG_Community@yahoogroups.com
to
PSG_Community@yahoogroups.com
date
Aug 31, 2007 10:25 AM
subject
[PSG_Community] Re: The rituals are done—
signed-by
yahoogroups.com
mailed-by
returns.groups.yahoo.com
HOney,I am NOT the only cuupster out there working magick on this
situation–
What I did, I did for an IMMEDIATE cease and desist of actions. No
one has a clue what the WHOLE story is that is occuring to Pagan
Pride. I can’t divulge that information–which I could, but I can’t.
However, I WILL defend myself and not roll over and play dead. I am
NOT a pacifist.
AJ’s acts against Pagan Pride is just like as if I had a home
invasion– I will defend and protect. Human compassion isn’t going
to cut it with AJ– what you see in his blogs are only the tip of the
iceburg what he’s doing to Pagan Pride.
If by my actions offends some people— so be it.. okay, just to let
you know… I created a witches bottle too– with blood and urine
added to it– is that a crime as well?
However, sorry I even brought up the subject of needing some
protection myself while doing the magickal workings.. seems that my
family is turning their back on me–
So much for defending and helping the pagan community– Don’t forget
what **I** nearly had to sacrfice on my own when it came to the
Pentacle Quest. I guess that doesn’t count anymore, does it?
JMH
17 Responses to “C.U.U.P.S., Pagan Pride, and Circle Sanctuary member conduct my murder in effigy.”
Aj
I just don’t know what to say. It makes me wonder if I want to become an Athist (sp). No religion at all is better than this kind of stuff. It would also be nice if people are going to write about this “effigy” thing they would get their info right.
BTW I think Jill Medicineheart has been removed as coordinator
http://www.paganpride.org/where/ohiovalley.html
Ohio Valley
Interim Regional Coordinator
Raven Spirit
Email him at ravenspirit70@hotmail.com for more information.
By Rhiannon on Sep 4, 2007
It does look as if PPP has removed her from her possition. I have written to the Interim Regional Coordinator asking not only if it is due to here seeming desire to have me murdered, but if so why was an apology not imediatly provided.
Fact: She is talking about sympathetic magick as in like attracts like. So she is attempting to bring about my murder via firearm.
Fact: She is doing so in clear retribution for my asking folk to write letters, use their First Amendment right to Freedom of Speech.
Fact: She remains the Vice President of CUUPS. Not a local CUUPS. She is the Vice president of the National Organization.
She was clear that she felt I was attacking Pagan Pride Project by encouraging folk to use Freedom of Speech, not for anything else I have ever done and said. This is just WRONG.
Our leaders are just WRONG. What the hell is happening to our community? Who the hell are these people? Where the hell are they comming from?
By A.J. Drew on Sep 4, 2007
An interesting developement brought to my attention by Bubba. The Co-Local Coordinator of the Ohio Valley / Findley Ohio Pagan Pride Project event is Mystie Maud’dib Dragonfly.
Co-Local Coordinator: Mystie Maud’dib Dragonfly, Email: MystieDragonfly@yahoo.com
As you might recall, this is the person who decided to involve my children in some half baked idea to send me a curse. Aimee took her to task for it and she was ejected from our community at Pagan Nation.
Afterwards she became obsessed with me and expressed that obsession in her Live Journal.
http://mystiedragonfly.livejournal.com/
We became aware of this when contacted by a PN member who works in a metal hospital and with the state who informed me that she appeared to have become unbalanced to the point of being dangerous. He recomended I contact the authorities as she was displaying clear signs of becoming a dangerous stalker.
This is unreal. Do other communities have this many nut cases?
By A.J. Drew on Sep 5, 2007
Did you know that Mystie was the coordinator of the Columbus PPD about 3 years ago???? She had big plans but never saw them to completion. You know what I always said about that whole Mystie thing…..(shrug)
Every community has it’s nut cases. For example look at the right to life people. They will kill a mother and the child before letting the mother get an abortion. How does that make sense?????
By Rhiannon on Sep 5, 2007
This women needs to be removed from her office and is in serious need of a psych evaluation…Yes, you better contact autorities..A.J. Take this very seriously…After reading this..I concur that this is not a laughing matter..Granted some curses and hexes can be quelled by laughter..but this is a unstable minded individual..if she has any superiors, I would foreward her blog and emails to them..as well as local authorities..A Ring of Light to you and your family…Be Well!
By gina on Sep 5, 2007
A.J. Just read thru mystie’s journal..By her blogs she seams to have very little self esteem and is also a man hater to boot..on top of that.. she is on ssi…which makes mew wonder if it is for a mental issue..but I could be wrong..
By gina on Sep 5, 2007
Jill Medicineheart and Mystie are friends on the blogs
http://medicineheart.livejournal.com/profile
Friends: 12: collared_wench, davensjournal, dksnds4dkminds, killishandria, mamabeast, medicineheart, mourningstar72, moztoo, roadkillroy, sayonara_solita, sethanikeem, zamion
I guess like minds and all that.
Seriously though AJ you need to report Medicineheart’s writings to the police just so they can show a record of her intent. AND protect yourself and family!
By Rhiannon on Sep 5, 2007
I don’t know if its true but I’d heard that Mystie spent the Columbus PPD funds on something and then jumped town. Interesting that she’s up north and running another PPD.
By Some_Pagan on Sep 5, 2007
I have added a third email to the original post. Uh, all I did was ask folk to write emails to Pagan Pride to express their opinions. She now says she could tell you the whole story but… uh but what? Is she sworn to secrecy or is it like the nut cases who insist they are secret agents, I could tell you but I’d have to kill you.
What the hell is this woman? As I understand it she was removed from her Pagan Pride possition. Note that title being used in her first email but not later emails. Did they sware her to secrecy when she left?
Does she think I am part of some international conspiracy to bring down Pagan Pride? I am a guy with a blog. What the hell?
By A.J. Drew on Sep 5, 2007
Oh this is interesting. The President of CUUPS is also the corporate secretary of PPD. Her CUUPS Bio lists her craft name in parentheses as (Aisling) and the PPD site lists the corporate secretary simply as Aisling. If you look at the bio on PPD though they’re the same person. No wonder CUUPS tolerates someone like JMH on their board.
By Some_Pagan on Sep 5, 2007
So I read the last added letter. It seems that she is doing much more than just sympathic magic. She is doing more than making jokes about watermellons. She is doing real harmful magic. (yeah I know…..Ya think???)
I am wondering about #8 post to this blog….
By Rhiannon on Sep 5, 2007
So let me see if I understand this. I asked folk to write to Pagan Pride Project to express concerns about pedophelic literature being sold at their events and its authors being promoted by same. The near imediate responce was that my life was threatened by a Pagan Pride Regional Coordinator who is friends of a pagan Pride local coordinator who has previously threatened me?
I kind of wondered how CUUPS became involved and why the Ohio Valley coordinator would go nutso speaking about secret information and so on and so forth.
It dos kind of seem like I asked folk to write to the national PPP organization, the Corp. Sec. for PPP day then took that information and shared it with her CUUPS vp who attacked.
Wow! All I can say is, uh Wow!
By A.J. Drew on Sep 5, 2007
And as an additional aside, JMH entered the Pentacle Quest on the day the VA settled. She takes a lot of credit for her work on the quest (and I think the quest was an important thing. I’m glad they succeeded) but she joined the party as it was winding down. The day Circle filed the amended complaint adding her, the VA settled. You can find the details here:
http://www.circlesanctuary.org/circle/articles/circlecraft/QuestSuccess.html
http://sacredtriskele.net/?p=89
By Some_Pagan on Sep 7, 2007
AJ, I’m sure I don’t have to tell you this, but perhaps anyone involved in the DeFrost campaign should try to cleanse and shield daily. Their supporters are like a dog with a bone with this “burning in effigy” crap! These people are real whack jobs! I do think what she puts out is going to come back to her. It already seems by the last email that her own are turning against her. It’s just further proof that you are being effective in getting people to think before they attend an event or buy a book. It’s working….PUSH ON!!
By Shaitan on Sep 7, 2007
Dear Mr. Drew,
I am a new member here to Pagan Nation, I actually joined just to be able to comment specifically on your blogs.
I’ve been studying and practicing paganism for about 2 years now, so I would still say I am fairly new, I learn something new everyday.
I’ve never had the chance to read the Frost’s book, nor do I think I want to now.
I didnt realize this situation existed until I read your blogs. (I found them because of a Myspace Group on Myspace called “the Pagan Circle”, there has been a few threads talking about the Frosts, and your blog links were posted up) Anyway, after reading through your blogs..and especially this blog in particular…as a fellow Ohioan and a Pagan..I just want you to know that I have your back…I think its horrible how the Ohio Pagan Networking community has turned on you for simply pointing out fact.
Im, sorry but if there is a pagan/wiccan book out there advocating child molestation or malicious intent for anyone or thing..then those books should not be sold to the general population and the author(s) should be investigated to the fullest extent of the law to determine if they have broken any local,state, or federal laws.
So i just wanted to say that you have atleast one Ohio Pagan ally out there.
reading this posting and how they’ve allied themselves with those child molestors..makes me want to disavow any connection I have with the ohio Pagan community at large, and become a hermit.
I was actualyl wanting to go to PSG next year, but after this..I may have to boycott/protest it..if they want to allow child molestation instructions to be sold at their events.
Namaste~
and Blessed Be!
By SonOfTheGoddess on Sep 7, 2007