Lets kill this guy.
April 30, 2008 – 9:24 amI want the man identified in this news article to be put to death. In fact, I want to be the person to cut his throat and not with a sharp knife. Not joking. I want to feel his life run from his body and to look into his eyes as the life runs away and tell him that humanity will no longer accept his brand of evil.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352805,00.html
After raping her for some 7 years, his daughter was about to turn 18 and he knew he would loose her when she moved out. So what did he do? He locked her away in an underground cell until she was 42 years old. There, she gave birth to several of his children. The eldest escaped at age 19, after spending an entire life underground, never seeing sun light.http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/28/europe/EU-GEN-Austria-Captive-Daughter.php
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/international/news/20080429p2g00m0in009000c.htmlhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_re_eu/austria_captive_daughter
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_re_eu/austria_captive_daughterThe daughter of this monster is my age. When I was 18, I was serving my country in the sunlight of Germany. She was locked away in a prison cell, forced to breed her own fathers children for 24 years, never seeing the light of day. I look at the person that I have become and when I consider my life, most of it took place in the last 24 years… those same years this woman was locked in a prison sell as her own father’s sex slave.I think about the monster’s 19 year old granddaughter who is also his daughter. From what I understand, she escaped while horribly ill. She saw sunlight for the first and perhaps last time as she is now in critical condition. I think about these things and something in me demands his death, but more than that. A public, visibly painful, lingering death filled with pain and taunting.
In our desire to build a kinder gentler world for our children, I fear we have overlooked the fact that demons and monsters not only exist but will grow in numbers if we are not willing to do combat with them and yes, kill them when we have the opportunity.
Enough is enough. Death to the pigs!
Here is the kinder, gentler part. Has anyone found information about a legitimate fund to help his victims? My god, the only thing this 19-year-old knows of life she learned underground. I can not imagine she is ready to become a member of Australian society and culture. I can’t imagine her mother is ready to return to Australian society and culture. I can’t imagine the other children will be able to learn as quickly at others in the school system. What can we do for these people? How do we apologize for not protecting them against monsters like this? How do we take care of our own, repairing the damage done by monsters and demons? How does humanity move forward in the face of the evil with which we are plagued?
11 Responses to “Lets kill this guy.”
What I would like to know is where was his wife during all this? That was her own daughter, and he only locked his daughter and 2 children/grandchildren in the basement. The other 3-5 (different stories say different number of children) lived in the house proper. I havent seem mention one of the wife. Was she dead? Or just blind to her husband’s sickness?
All in all i m just completely disgusted by the whole thing, and i pity the poor children.
By Kili on Apr 30, 2008
Kili - The wife had no idea. The basement was not in their home. They lived in an apartment complex. When he brought children home, he put them in a basket with a note from his daughter saying she was on drugs and asking her mother and father to keep the kids. From what I understand, when the mother found out she was institutionalized for having a nervous break down.
Basicly, she found out and lost her mind. I think I would have done the same. I would like to think I would kill my spouce first, but I honestly don’t think my mind could take that knowledge.
By A.J. Drew on Apr 30, 2008
Ok the articles I read never said anything about her Thank you for the info.
I agree Kill the Bastard. He looks dead in the eyes anyway lets match the body to the soul
By Kili on May 1, 2008
For a very, very long time, I’ve been in favor of the death penalty for crimes against children. I do NOT hold to the idea that ‘weeeelll, it was his first time, blah blah blah’. They know it’s wrong the FIRST TIME they do it. They CHOOSE to commit a life altering crime against a child for purely selfish reasons. It’s not great feat to fool a child. There is something so inherently WRONG with people who commit these kinds of crimes and it’s been proven over and over there is not possibility of rehabilitation.
I remember a crime, where a man abducted and raped a young woman/girl. She may have been over 18. He was leaving her in the wilderness with her arms tied behind her back, she begged him not to leave her tied up. He then cut her arms off at the elbows and left her to bleed to death. She somehow made it to a roadside where someone drove her to a hospital or police station, I don’t remember, but will look it up and give you the link. He got some ridiculously light sentence and of course was released due to his successfull rehabilitation,after which he promply tried to kill someone else, but was caught in the act.
G. Gordon Liddy said of his time in prison, that it just gives the perves more time to think about their crimes and there is no change. He was in favor of the death penalty. He said he punched several criminals in the face during his time in prison for trying to tell him about their crimes and relive it and enjoy the telling. I don’t blame him and were I a man in the same situation, I would do the same.
If it were my job to flip the switch to do them in, I’d do it and feel NOTHING except relief that the threat was GONE.
By suzume on May 1, 2008
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/106424_maryvincent30.shtml
Her name is Mary Vincent. She was 15 and he served 8 years of a 14 year sentence. She’s on u tube, you could google her name. I wish some really talented musician would write a “Ballad of Mary Vincent”. She deserves to me immortalized, living through what she has and done what she has with her life.
By suzume on May 1, 2008
http://www.salon.com/march97/news/news970305.html
This one describes the crime in better detail.
Sorry if it seems like overdoing, but I think she’s worth it, her story is worth it.
By suzume on May 1, 2008
Seems your a very violent guy there AJ, all that KILL KILL KILL, in the military has turned you into a killer. But from someone like you its expected..Mental illness will do that to you
By Shadowhawk on May 1, 2008
Shadowhawk – The military does not teach a person to be violent, it teaches a person to not to use violence when one might desire. It is called self-discipline. I am 42 years old, have no criminal record, and have never unjustly taken a life. If not for my time in the military, I am sure I would be in prison as I was a very unruly youth. As I live with a head injury, which is known to dramatically increase the statistics for violent crime, I believe the self-restraint the military gave me has been a great help in my life. Feel free to continue to insult me, but do not insult the United States military if you know nothing of it. I do not think it takes a violent person to want this man killed. I think it takes a heart.
Kili – On the wife, all I have is tears. I can not imagine a spouse, someone you trust with your life and the life of your children, doing such a thing. Waking up one day to find the last 31 years of your life (he started raping the first daughter when she was 11) was a lie and your life partner was a monster. It is the type of things that horror movies rarely touch on. Seriously, please pray for her. Her pain must be beyond anything we can imagine.
Suzume – I am not sure I would vote for the death penalty for crimes against children unless it was narrowed down a bit. A 30-year-old man raping a 12 year old warrants death. A 19-year-old and a 17 year old, not so much if it is consequential. But what ever the definition, this was so very far across any civil line that the man needs killed. And that comes from someone who does not really support the death penalty. In general, would rather see criminals work and return something to their victims and society. The thing is, monsters and demons such as this must be destroyed.
I love listening to G. Gordon Liddy back in the day. Before my store and workshop was flooded, I had him on while working in the shop. The man is so frank and his show is not limited to politics the way many talk radio host have become. He could talk gun control from the political aspect or talk about keeping your sights on target, maintenance of a weapon, or so on. Is he still on talk radio? Now a days when I am working, I tend to listen to Manowar. Kind of embarrassing when someone catches me singing along.
Mary Vincent is one of my personal heroes. I wish nobody had to experience what that woman overcame, but if nobody experienced it we would not have heroes. She is a beautifully souled survivor & one of the reasons I am not generally for the death penalty. Yes, I think the monster should have been put to death. Yes, I am disgusted that he was released from prison so that he could go on to attack and kill his next victim. But look at the way this woman is living. Look at her tiny income.
That man took not only her arms, but (please forgive me Mary Vincent) a part of her mind. There is no way a human being can survive what was done to her with their brain fully in tact. The civil courts address things like that with cash, and while cash does not replace arms or sound the mind; it can go a long way to help survivors recover with dignity.
I say make those convicted of violent crimes work their asses off every day they are in prison. Put the profits from their labor into a fund to help the survivors of their crimes. That way, those who murder help surviving victims and the victims of those who were put to death can still be helped even though their attacker is not paying into the fund.
Someone must be made to pay and siting in an air-conditioned cell with cable TV is not enough no matter how long they are in prison.
You are not over doing it. We live in a world where we ignore the monsters, hoping they will go away. As a result, we ignore the heroes as well. Although I think this is a human problem, I think modern day pagan culture should embrace the heroes and speak against the monsters the way the pagans of old did. What is mythology if not just this? This woman should be immortalized by modern day pagans the way Hercules was immortalized by the ancients.
By A.J. Drew on May 5, 2008
I agree with you on the working prisoners. I felt that Timothy McVeigh, should have to work six days a week, picking up the pieces of the building he blew up, one day off to rest because 7 days might kill him. It would most likely take him the rest of his life.
I also agree that monsters need to be destroyed. I’d be happy to know some of my tax dollars went to a foundation to help people like Mary Vincent.
Don’t know what’s up with G Gordon Liddy, Used to listen to him every day at work, but he just disappeared off the radio one day and Howie Carr came on instead. Not crazy about him, Howie.
Yes, she is a hero and yes she should be legend, which is why I wish someone really REALLY talented would write a song about her. Or maybe a poem? Do you know anyone talented enough to immortalize her?
By Suzume on May 5, 2008
Suzume - I do not think I know anyone with enough talent to immortalize a person. She is included in a manuscript I have been working on for some time, but my skills as an author have never been great and frankly, I have a lot of problems trying to write now a days. Short rants yes, books not so much.
We need to know about out heroes and our monsters.
By A.J. Drew on May 5, 2008
I should have said that, i feel nothing but pity and heart ache for that entire family and community that man has destroyed.
And anger especially since more articles link him to at least other rapes.
By Kili on May 6, 2008